tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30603050.post3897628696997078375..comments2023-10-10T12:29:32.468-04:00Comments on Bleier's Blog: The 2014 Assault on Gaza: Israel’s Intentionality; with Remarks on Left ZionismRonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06894911763711058827noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30603050.post-14134657688778433442014-08-21T14:55:23.749-04:002014-08-21T14:55:23.749-04:00P. responded to mine.
Interesting though the psyc...P. responded to mine.<br /><br />Interesting though the psycho-differentiation and analysis might be, the results are the same. But the the point remains that neither camp is autonomous. And if what you say about Obama’s attitude is true, the crushing irony for him is that he must serve the ancient, white power hierarchy because he knows they brought him up and can easily bring him down. Reminds me of the joke about the new president being seated in a room filled with cigar-smoking barons. The lights go down, a screen comes up showing the assassination of Kennedy. The lights then come up, and a voice says “Any questions?”<br /><br /><br />The destruction of which you speak is not as much a goal as it is a consequence of the struggle for power and control. Any means is ‘allowed' as long as you don’t give away the game. Except that the Illuminati do ‘feed’ energetically on fear and pain (as well as blood). While some players believe it us “US power and hegemony” they’re advancing, they’re blinded by the Drama and cannot see the bigger picture, or that the US is merely a tool. A tool built by, and fully in the hands of, the Elite—from Day One. America/US IS an Elite operation (a corporation still largely owned by the British Crown and not independent at all) and the illusion of freedom. The ‘petty’ motives of these players serve the larger Agenda that only those at the top of the compartmentalized power pyramid are aware of and orchestrate.<br /><br /><br /><br />There are only two kinds of government/political system on the planet: Overtly oppressive and covertly enslaving (illusions of freedom). And they are played off against one another on the global stage. This is the Drama, the great polarity which is exploited to reflect ‘good and evil.’ But the key is, the Elite operate on both sides and fare just as well in either scenario, although covert control is preferred. Essentially, descendants of the ‘crowd’ that created the US also created the Third Reich and the USSR—not to mention Israel :-)<br /><br /><br />The various psychologies of ‘leaders,’ etc are virtually unimportant except as they can be turned to serve the Masters from their little compartments.<br /><br /><br />BTW, homosexuality, or male to male sex, is rampant among the Elite class. It is used in trauma-based mind control, and if Kay Griggs is telling the truth, it’s a rite of passage to the upper echelon of military power. And did you know that many/most of those raped in the military are men? Nixon said after his visit to Bohemian Grove, “It’s the faggiest goddam thing.”<br /><br /><br />P.<br />Ronaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894911763711058827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30603050.post-5403396837796929862014-08-20T15:34:28.703-04:002014-08-20T15:34:28.703-04:00Thanks, Peter, once again for your substantive co...Thanks, Peter, once again for your substantive comments. <br /> Yes, I agree that there’s no essential difference between Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld and Obama. They’re all intent on destruction via U.S. diplomatic, military, political, and covert power. <br /> <br />Yet, at the same time I find it interesting to differentiate among the two camps. The Bush people have an essentially forward looking ideology of war making and extending U.S. power and hegemony and maximum confrontation and international destabilization. I say forward looking because they think that their way is the only proper means of confronting the left at home and abroad and wiping out the left socialist/progressive agenda.<br /><br />I see Obama, on the other hand, as having an essentially nihilist view aimed at destroying and of taking revenge at a U.S.-led world order. I see him with a sociopathic agenda driven by his view of the white world which he sees as essentially crushing the body and spirit of black people, his people. It’s what drives him and gives him energy. He’s against the left, represented by his mother who disillusioned him by mating with a black man and hiding from him the personal and racial ramifications of a black man in a white world – an uncompromising truth he had to learn on his own. Interestingly his ruthlessness and lack of compassion extends also to his own race. He has no interest in alleviating a jot of the inequality or injustice.<br /><br /> Essentially LObama carries the bitterness of a Clarence Thomas masked by his early understanding that he could advance in his mother’s white world by subterfuge, by presenting a non-threatening demeanor, by pretending to be a white black man. His nihilism is not dissimilar to that of the 20th century most powerful and effective nihilist, someone with the charisma of an Obama who was equally unhappy in his own skin (the former because he was a homosexual) and who also hated the world.<br /><br />So in Obama’s world, the world we inhabit, the world he has created, what we see as tragedy internationally and domestically, he sees as victories, achievements. He’s the opposite of disengaged or timid. Like the 20th century monster, he’s achieving his goal of destruction.<br />Ronaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894911763711058827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30603050.post-7499604471611642332014-08-19T13:32:12.728-04:002014-08-19T13:32:12.728-04:00PT wrote:
Decent analysis, Ronald, until the fatal...PT wrote:<br />Decent analysis, Ronald, until the fatal error at the end, assuming that Rothschild-Zionist/Illuminati puppet Obama has any autonomy or any say in the matter :-) How is it that Republicrat and Democan presidents have the same policies if they’re not controlled by the same power hierarchy. Can you tell any essential difference between Bush/Obama? Please say. Of course, you know Obama’s related to Cheney, too, right? That Kerry and Dubya are cousins? That it's one, big, happy occultist, satanic, pedophilic, psychopathic family running the show and wearing many masks to titillate the Drama analysts and keep them at work misleading the public? :-) The whole scam is good for jobs, I guess.<br /><br />P.Ronaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894911763711058827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30603050.post-68079431634656270952014-08-19T13:31:32.779-04:002014-08-19T13:31:32.779-04:00RS wrote:
thanks very much for sending-- an excell...RS wrote:<br />thanks very much for sending-- an excellent piece.<br />when i was in israel years ago on an<br />article assignment on border cities around the<br />world i ended up hanging around with a bunch of<br />semi-retired i.d.f. officers; ALL were devoid of<br />racism and wanted a political solution that would<br />allow all parties to live in dignity, prosperity and<br />peace. in contrast, it's depressing how often the settlers'<br />spokesmen today are from AMERICA, and brought their<br />homegrown US racism with them to Israel. <br />the public rhetoric here during this latest gaza<br />invasion has been surreally partisan, with journalists<br />punished for the slightest hint of sympathy toward<br />"collateral" civilian KIAs, Hillary Clinton tying<br />herself up in coils of illogic trying to blame attacks on<br />UN refugee centers and schools on the dead victims, and<br />the outright suppression of news (on one of the worst<br />days of bloodshed, the NY Times ran their lead story<br />on Gaza on PAGE NINE--- appalling.<br />if the netanyahu government had spent half the money it<br />expended ravaging gaza on fostering economic development,<br />education and reconstruction there it would have seriously<br />and permanently weakened the terrorist threat from gaza,<br />but alas violence and bullying are politically addictive,<br />and a hard habit to kick--one must admit that one's<br />myth of moral exclusivity has been false all along, and that<br />one's enemies despite their race or religion are human beings<br />with legitimate rights and desires of their own. <br /><br />And one can't ignore the cynical role the "defense industries"<br />and their political partners in both the US and Israel (and Egypt,<br />Iran, etc.etc. ad infinitum ad nauseam) have played all along,<br />in stoking the flames of paranoia and hatred simply to make money--<br />terrible, but true. <br /><br />Best always, Rob S.<br /><br />Ronald responded:<br />Thanks, Rob. Much appreciated.<br /> I think you're right about the strong drift to the right -- there and probably elsewhere.<br />We can only hope that Israel may have overplayed its hand. I gather Hamas hopes that they can hold out for an end to the siege. But the Israelis have always been clever and with Hillary and Cuomo on their side....<br />Best wishes,<br />Ronald<br /> Ronaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894911763711058827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30603050.post-21869072699997212332014-08-19T13:29:45.332-04:002014-08-19T13:29:45.332-04:00Bob wrote:
Thanks for your blog postings. Hope you...Bob wrote:<br />Thanks for your blog postings. Hope you are well. I just celebrated my 85th birthday. Bob Ronaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894911763711058827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30603050.post-14773705708766753232014-08-19T13:28:55.122-04:002014-08-19T13:28:55.122-04:00SR:
Thanks, Ronald.
Regards,
SRSR:<br />Thanks, Ronald.<br />Regards,<br />SRRonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894911763711058827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30603050.post-52273338237805011272014-08-16T13:14:28.094-04:002014-08-16T13:14:28.094-04:00Thanks Alex, for your welcome comments and for hel...Thanks Alex, for your welcome comments and for helping to continue the conversation. I was put in mind of those rabbis who use international condemnation of Israeli atrocities to circle the wagons and defend Israel. I wondered what these rabbis actually believed when they said that first the PLO and now Hamas intend to destroy Israel. Are they not aware that it is Israel’s aim and practice to destroy the Palestinian nation? What do they make of the expulsion of 750,000 Palestinians from their homes and lands in 1948? Is this not the purposeful destruction of a people? What do they make of a decades- long military occupation of millions of Palestinians? What do they make of the obliteration of 400+ Palestinian villages in 1948-1949? <br />The rabbis’ collective response seems to be denial in the service of tribal loyalties for the purpose of subjugation and conquest.<br />--Ronald<br />Ronaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894911763711058827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30603050.post-2345671520830871452014-08-15T05:05:45.853-04:002014-08-15T05:05:45.853-04:00In your answer to the question how can Jews (you d...In your answer to the question how can Jews (you didn't actually use the word but it was implied by analogy to the question of how could Germans accept Hitler's genocide), accept what Israel is doing to Palestinians in Gaza) you provided this answer:<br />"There’s another and deeper personal connection. As a member of a family that narrowly managed to escape Hitler's exterminations, I grew up wondering how ordinary Germans were able to rationalize and live with the horror that their government was perpetrating. Part of the answer must lie in the power of denial facilitated by media and government propaganda. An ambiguous, even uncertain example that somehow stuck out for me was the brief comment, as reported in the New York Jewish Week (April 8, 2014), of a woman pained at news reports of civilian Palestinian casualties. At a “communal dialogue” at a Jewish Community Center in Manhattan, entitled “Israel Talks,” a woman affiliated with a Jewish Reform Temple who described herself as “deeply attached “ to Israel, asked, in regard to the ongoing Gaza operation, “Why do they strike at hospitals? Their mistakes are so painful.” <br />Your answer is the "media and propaganda"<br />But although the Main Stream Media has pretty much mimiced the pro Israel Line you didn't mention that so too and to a greater extent with the exception in degree of Haaretz and The Forward, has the Jewish Media. And most importantly you neglected to mention the support that the established Jewish Leadership, (e.g..11 Jewish Organizational Leaders tell UN Chief Ban that the war crimes investigation of gaza will be biased against Israel) an important element of the Israel Lobby has given Israel's war crimes.<br />Nor have you mentioned that the pro Israel line is expressed by many Rabbis in their synagogues. <br />Actually the similarity between The Catholic Church's support for Franco in the Spanish Civil War by the Catholic Church and what the established Jewish religious figures are doing for Israeli fascism and agression is strikingalexnoreply@blogger.com