Showing posts with label patsies. Show all posts
Showing posts with label patsies. Show all posts
Monday, September 17, 2007
NYT (1993): The FBI Allowed (or arranged) the WTC '93 Bombing: What Was Clinton's Role?
Ralph Schoenman was recently in NYC (May 2006) for some lectures, parts of which were broadcast on local, soon to be gone, community access cable. In connection with false flag operations, Schoenman mentioned the 1993 WTC bombing and gave the documentation regarding the Times account which blew the whistle on the FBI operation.
So the truth comes out in plain sight, but it doesn't matter, since it's never repeated and certainly not part of the official story, the only story that is allowed.
In his lecture Schoenman laid out his theory that the Blind Sheik was brought in to this country against Egypt's protests to serve as a patsy in these false flag operations and was aided by the CIA while in Egypt as part of a larger operation to destabilize secular Arab governments.
This reminder from 1993 brings up again the question of Clinton's involvement in these shadow operations. This false flag operation was intended to jump start the war against the Muslim community in the CIA/FBI creation of an Islamic villain and permanent war that is their mission.
Did Clinton know in advance? After the incident, what effort if any did he make to get to the bottom of it? In all likelihood, the best that can be said is that he kept a hands off approach.
--Ronald
The FBI allowed the 1993
WTC bombing to happen
THE NEW YORK TIMES * * * * * Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1
"Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast" By Ralph Blumenthal
Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building
a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center,
and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting
harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after
the blast. The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb
and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by
an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer,
Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said. The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings that Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as
being in a far better position than previously known to foil
the February 26th bombing of New York City's tallest towers.
The explosion left six people dead, more than a thousand people
injured, and damages in excess of half-a-billion dollars. Four men are now on trial in Manhattan Federal Court [on charges of involvement] in that attack. Mr. Salem, a 43-year-old former Egyptian Army officer, was used by the Government [of the United States] to penetrate a circle of Muslim extremists who are now charged in two bombing cases:
the World Trade Center attack, and a foiled plot to destroy
the United Nations, the Hudson River tunnels, and other New York City landmarks. He is the crucial witness in the second bombing case, but his work for the Government was erratic, and for months before the World Trade Center blast,
he was feuding with the F.B.I. Supervisor `Messed It Up' After the bombing, he resumed his undercover work. In an undated transcript of a conversation from that period,Mr. Salem recounts a talk he had had earlier with an agent
about an unnamed F.B.I. supervisor who, he said, "came and messed it up."
"He requested to meet me in the hotel," Mr. Salem says of the supervisor. "He requested to make me to testify, and if he didn't push for that, we'll be going building the bomb with a phony powder, and grabbing the people who was
involved in it. But since you, we didn't do that." The transcript quotes Mr. Salem as saying that he wanted to complain to F.B.I. Headquarters in Washington about the
Bureau's failure to stop the bombing, but was dissuaded by an agent identified as John Anticev.
Mr. Salem said Mr. Anticev had told him, "He said, I don't think that the New York people would like the things out of the New York Office to go to
Washington, D.C." Another agent, identified as Nancy Floyd, does not dispute
Mr. Salem's account, but rather, appears to agree with it, saying of the `New York people': "Well, of course not, because they don't want to get their butts chewed."
Monday, May 14, 2007
Xymphora and Nimmo: Fort Dix Patsies Duped into Life Terms
5.8.07
Xymphora writes:
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/
The Fort Dix suicide attack.
Think of it from the point of view of the alleged attackers. You’re going to give up your life to make a point. Why waste it to kill at most a half-dozen American soldiers – about what are killed in a day in Iraq – and probably not kill anyone at all at the very well-guarded base, when you could do much more harm in other ways? When you add the fact that they dropped their jihad tapes off at a local video store to be DVD’d, they spoke openly to a Philadelphia police sergeant about obtaining maps of Fort Dix, they were infiltrated at an early stage (probably before they actually decided to do anything, with the juiciest plans suggested by the infiltrator, just like in Canada), the authorities start with an attack on Fort Dix and s-l-i-d-e into an attack on a football game, and the ‘terrorists’ played paintball (!), they is almost no chance that this was any more than some young guys who were fooling around and were duped by the authorities. When are young Muslim men going to wake up and realize they have targets on their backs? An innocent game of paintball could land you in jail for the rest of your life.
Kurt Nimmo writes:
Pizza Delivery Guy and Cohorts Planned Fort Dix Attack
May 08th 2007
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=861
How many of us put any credence into this stuff, let alone pay attention? “Federal authorities announced Tuesday that they had foiled a terrorist plot to attack Fort Dix. Six men were charged with planning to kill as many soldiers as they could,” the Associated Press would have us believe. “One of the suspects, Serdar Tatar, had delivered pizza on the base and said he knew it like the back of his hand,” according to the government, never mind the “post has had especially tight security since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.”
According to the FBI, the United States “dodged a bullet”—or maybe extra cheese and Italian sausage—thanks to paid informants who apparently had little trouble penetrating the group and videotaping them. “What we witnessed here was a brand new form of terrorism,” that is to say terrorist plots cooked up in pizza delivery joints by delusional patsies who apparently believed it was possible to attack a military installation with weapons to be provided by “a confidential government witness.”
“The charging documents, filed in federal court in Camden yesterday and unsealed today, portray an ambitious and cold-blooded—but somewhat bungling—cadre who hoped to kill at least 100 soldiers, but also dropped training videos off at a local store to be copied, and spoke openly to a Philadelphia police sergeant about obtaining maps of Fort Dix,” the Washington Post, reports.
Naturally, the key word here is “bungling,” although it appears these hapless patsies are, more than anything, delusional in the true psychiatric sense of the word, i.e., the would-be (with the promise of “confidential government witness” assistance) perps entertained an erroneous belief it was possible to attack a military base with “three AK-47 automatic assault rifles and four semi-automatic M-16 rifles,” going up against hundreds of trained soldiers, and actually “kill as many soldiers as possible.”
“Since the Sept. 11 attacks, the Justice Department database has served as the key source of statistics on the status of terrorism investigations in the United States and has been cited frequently in official speeches and testimony to Congress,” the Washington Post reported in June, 2005. Out of 361 cases, the Washington Post “identified 180 cases in which no connection to al Qaeda or another terrorist group could be found in court records, official statements, the 9/11 commission report or news accounts. Even some of the terrorism-related cases featured early allegations of terrorist connections that were later dropped.”
Of the 142 individuals on the list linked to terrorist groups, 39 were convicted of crimes related to terrorism or national security. More than a dozen defendants were acquitted or had their charges dismissed, including three Moroccan men in Detroit whose convictions were tossed out in September after the Justice Department admitted prosecutorial misconduct.
Not surprisingly, these minor crimes produced modest punishments. The median sentence for all cases adjudicated, whether or not they were terrorism-related, was 11 months. About three dozen other defendants were given probation or were deported. The most common convictions were on charges of fraud, making false statements, passport violations and conspiracy.
[…]
“What we’re seeing over time is the equivalent of mission creep: Cases that would not be terrorism cases before Sept. 11 are swept onto the terrorism docket,” said Juliette Kayyem, a former Clinton administration Justice official who heads the national security program at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government. “The problem is that it’s not good to cook the numbers. . . . We have no accurate assessment of whether the war on terrorism is actually working.”
In other words, the government is not particularly interested in detecting, arresting, and prosecuting supposed “homegrown” terrorists, but rather making a big headline splash with initial arrests and hyperbolic allegations, as the WOT is all about propaganda, not actual threats.
It seems to hardly matter if the alleged plots are completely ludicrous.
Would you like crazy crust with that?
Xymphora writes:
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/
The Fort Dix suicide attack.
Think of it from the point of view of the alleged attackers. You’re going to give up your life to make a point. Why waste it to kill at most a half-dozen American soldiers – about what are killed in a day in Iraq – and probably not kill anyone at all at the very well-guarded base, when you could do much more harm in other ways? When you add the fact that they dropped their jihad tapes off at a local video store to be DVD’d, they spoke openly to a Philadelphia police sergeant about obtaining maps of Fort Dix, they were infiltrated at an early stage (probably before they actually decided to do anything, with the juiciest plans suggested by the infiltrator, just like in Canada), the authorities start with an attack on Fort Dix and s-l-i-d-e into an attack on a football game, and the ‘terrorists’ played paintball (!), they is almost no chance that this was any more than some young guys who were fooling around and were duped by the authorities. When are young Muslim men going to wake up and realize they have targets on their backs? An innocent game of paintball could land you in jail for the rest of your life.
Kurt Nimmo writes:
Pizza Delivery Guy and Cohorts Planned Fort Dix Attack
May 08th 2007
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=861
How many of us put any credence into this stuff, let alone pay attention? “Federal authorities announced Tuesday that they had foiled a terrorist plot to attack Fort Dix. Six men were charged with planning to kill as many soldiers as they could,” the Associated Press would have us believe. “One of the suspects, Serdar Tatar, had delivered pizza on the base and said he knew it like the back of his hand,” according to the government, never mind the “post has had especially tight security since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.”
According to the FBI, the United States “dodged a bullet”—or maybe extra cheese and Italian sausage—thanks to paid informants who apparently had little trouble penetrating the group and videotaping them. “What we witnessed here was a brand new form of terrorism,” that is to say terrorist plots cooked up in pizza delivery joints by delusional patsies who apparently believed it was possible to attack a military installation with weapons to be provided by “a confidential government witness.”
“The charging documents, filed in federal court in Camden yesterday and unsealed today, portray an ambitious and cold-blooded—but somewhat bungling—cadre who hoped to kill at least 100 soldiers, but also dropped training videos off at a local store to be copied, and spoke openly to a Philadelphia police sergeant about obtaining maps of Fort Dix,” the Washington Post, reports.
Naturally, the key word here is “bungling,” although it appears these hapless patsies are, more than anything, delusional in the true psychiatric sense of the word, i.e., the would-be (with the promise of “confidential government witness” assistance) perps entertained an erroneous belief it was possible to attack a military base with “three AK-47 automatic assault rifles and four semi-automatic M-16 rifles,” going up against hundreds of trained soldiers, and actually “kill as many soldiers as possible.”
“Since the Sept. 11 attacks, the Justice Department database has served as the key source of statistics on the status of terrorism investigations in the United States and has been cited frequently in official speeches and testimony to Congress,” the Washington Post reported in June, 2005. Out of 361 cases, the Washington Post “identified 180 cases in which no connection to al Qaeda or another terrorist group could be found in court records, official statements, the 9/11 commission report or news accounts. Even some of the terrorism-related cases featured early allegations of terrorist connections that were later dropped.”
Of the 142 individuals on the list linked to terrorist groups, 39 were convicted of crimes related to terrorism or national security. More than a dozen defendants were acquitted or had their charges dismissed, including three Moroccan men in Detroit whose convictions were tossed out in September after the Justice Department admitted prosecutorial misconduct.
Not surprisingly, these minor crimes produced modest punishments. The median sentence for all cases adjudicated, whether or not they were terrorism-related, was 11 months. About three dozen other defendants were given probation or were deported. The most common convictions were on charges of fraud, making false statements, passport violations and conspiracy.
[…]
“What we’re seeing over time is the equivalent of mission creep: Cases that would not be terrorism cases before Sept. 11 are swept onto the terrorism docket,” said Juliette Kayyem, a former Clinton administration Justice official who heads the national security program at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government. “The problem is that it’s not good to cook the numbers. . . . We have no accurate assessment of whether the war on terrorism is actually working.”
In other words, the government is not particularly interested in detecting, arresting, and prosecuting supposed “homegrown” terrorists, but rather making a big headline splash with initial arrests and hyperbolic allegations, as the WOT is all about propaganda, not actual threats.
It seems to hardly matter if the alleged plots are completely ludicrous.
Would you like crazy crust with that?
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